pic's of my bottom out - suspension overhaul?

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pic's of my bottom out - suspension overhaul?

Post by fishtail » 25 Nov 2012, 06:41

took some stills from the vid my mate took yesterday.. cos he said I totally bottomed out..

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*CRUNCH*
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could be my bad technique?
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Post by helisupp » 25 Nov 2012, 13:25

Your bottoms definitely out.

Might be better if you took more of the shock with your legs.

But its a trail bike, not an enduro.

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Post by twistednuts » 25 Nov 2012, 14:24

:shock: you can almost hear the bike crying on the crunch pic!!

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Post by fallenmikethebike » 25 Nov 2012, 14:43

Combination, mediocre shock, and wrong technique. Try and get back on the gas before the back wheel lands, this helps take up the landing forces.
What tyre pressure are you running ?
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Post by fishtail » 25 Nov 2012, 18:05

bike yelped/ looks like a whipped puppy with its tail between its legs!

erm reminds me have to check the tyre pressures.. havent for a few weeks :o - they were at 18 p.si if I remember...

yeah will have to practice more - cos that area is like a fun easier place to, has a few ramps up onto this plateau... can even get into 2nd gear on some of them - like that one! kind of rare for HK

shame like any where I want to ride its like 45 minutes away. meeting a guy on an AR tomorrow - he's going to show me a place thats only 30 mins from my place...
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Post by twistednuts » 25 Nov 2012, 18:32

Anywhere i want to ride is well over an hour away, another reason i got rid of crm really, nowhere to trail ride

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Post by fishtail » 25 Nov 2012, 19:03

yeah an hours a bit far really for a short ride out.. I found a shortish trail with some paths on about 10 mins from my place - but its not got much going for it.- only takes 2 mins to get up the hill if I give some gas!

altho I suppose if I go often enough I could make some loops on a field/ bog up there- and there are some dirt footpaths there just goes between electricity pylons thru the woods - but lots of low branches - hardly used.. and a few bits I daren't do alone yet. like the first bit of the path! up a steep 6 - 8 foot bank which would drop u back into a big rock hole if u didnt get it right :x

actually all off road riding is technically illegal here...... :| enforcement of all traffic regualtions is less enthusiastic than the UK tho ;) like no points for doing 10 mph over the limit...
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Post by Retro » 11 Dec 2012, 13:00

Ohhhooooo!!!!..... nice jump but I feel the bikes pain.
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Post by njhardy » 12 Dec 2012, 08:44

Yup- you were rubbing your ass in the dirt there Mart! I don't think I have ever managed to 'bottom out' like this on mine and I do a fair bit of jumping- mind you most old CRM's aren't really set up for this abuse.. I put new springs & thicker oil in my front and have a lifting 'dogbone' link on my rear suspension, so its higher.
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Your posture is neutral on take-off- which is ok. Need to compress your rear spring more IMHO- to give more resistance- what's it set on? Pump rear tyre up. Give it a handfull just before touch-down (don't open the throttle mid-air: it will send the front up)! -That should tighter the chain and put the front and rear up. Use your legs as a shock-absorber. You shouldn't be hitting the saddle when you land- you should still be almost standing with bent knees around the tank. I don't know how much crap was in your back-pack, but anything heavy or pointed- lose it (unless you want to hurt yourself).

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Post by delvey91 » 17 Dec 2012, 21:52

Every bike does it lol heres 2 of the ktms

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Post by knackeredMk1 » 17 Dec 2012, 22:39

When racing you should set the damping so that you bottom out gently about twice a lap.

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Post by fishtail » 18 Dec 2012, 02:56

yeah I did some smaller jumps las week - and to my surprise it bottomed out as well - I was standing on tip toes with slightly bended knee as well.. :roll:

anyways - here's the vid of that day if you fancy a look - you can see where my mate pushes me off a really steep slope at 3:46

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Post by fishtail » 18 Dec 2012, 02:57

double post :shock:
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Post by helisupp » 18 Dec 2012, 09:04

After many hours of researching why the suspension has bottomed out on your CRM, the last video post has confirmed my suspicions.

It seems you must be carrying a large heavy stereo system around in your backpack, as I can hear load music even over the noise of your engine.

If you tell your suspension tuner to account for the weight of the system it may cure the problem :D

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Post by fishtail » 18 Dec 2012, 11:06

ho-ho-ho! :D

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