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CRM250AR Top end refresh

Posted: 07 Jul 2015, 22:01
by gregorious77
So here is the thread that all AR owners have been waiting for...................... maybe.
After a whole load of hassle finding a std bore piston (thought to be unavailable) I found one and have it in my possession.
Wossner part number 8071D040 Dia 66.33mm clearance 0.07mm
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I purchased it from Off Road Only but I think Tom at Leisure Trail (brilliant help with tech knowledge while I was sourcing this piston)* will get a couple to stock now he knows they are available again so you could order all of the required gaskets and piston from them.
*As was Knackered Mk1

As I knew this was coming I decided to start the strip down.

My bore had brown streaks down it and the piston had some blowby and the whole lot was covered in a fair bit of oil including the bottom end.

Bore (oily)
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Brown streaks
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Piston
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Exhaust side (evidence of 4 corner seize)
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Inlet side (evidence of 4 corner seize)
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Re: CRM250AR Top end refresh

Posted: 07 Jul 2015, 22:04
by gregorious77
Side of piston
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The Wossner is the same in all directions except the ring positions and pin detail.

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Re: CRM250AR Top end refresh

Posted: 07 Jul 2015, 22:14
by gregorious77
Took the cylinder to work and cleaned it up in our parts washer then used scotchbrite in a criss cross pattern followed by electrical contact cleaner and clean rags and finished with a blow out using compressed air and finally WD40 and clean rags. NOTE - never hone a plated bore.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaFp8aYkHNA

Resulting bore is shiny and streaks are barely visible.
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PV got the treatment too.
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Head cleaned up with a rag and some WD40.
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Re: CRM250AR Top end refresh

Posted: 07 Jul 2015, 22:22
by gregorious77
Measured a high calorie performance piston to see if it would fit.
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Alas it was too big so an overbore and greaseproof paper lining would be required.
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Needed silicon so rebuild only got as far as piston on rod tonight.

Re: CRM250AR Top end refresh

Posted: 07 Jul 2015, 23:17
by mekros
I'm interested to see what the high calorie piston rings look like.

Re: CRM250AR Top end refresh

Posted: 08 Jul 2015, 00:43
by jim157
mekros wrote:I'm interested to see what the high calorie piston rings look like.
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Re: CRM250AR Top end refresh

Posted: 08 Jul 2015, 20:51
by mekros
Let me know how the run in goes with that lot. lol

Re: CRM250AR Top end refresh

Posted: 09 Jul 2015, 09:52
by admin
epic post in true PB style. nice one fella. watching with interest

Re: CRM250AR Top end refresh

Posted: 09 Jul 2015, 09:54
by admin
what's the difference in weight between the 2 items ?

Re: CRM250AR Top end refresh

Posted: 09 Jul 2015, 12:50
by gregorious77
sorry didn't weigh them.
Ran her up last night though. sounded a bit knocky maybe a bit of pinking due to higher compression.
Ill see what she is like once run in.

Re: CRM250AR Top end refresh

Posted: 28 Jul 2015, 16:27
by admin
how is she running pal ? all ok i hope

Re: CRM250AR Top end refresh

Posted: 28 Jul 2015, 17:10
by gregorious77
Strong and fast but rattles like a diesel. Guessing clearances are a bit on the loose side so getting piston slap. Gonna run it like this and look at bore and plate +2mm later on.

Re: CRM250AR Top end refresh

Posted: 28 Jul 2015, 17:13
by admin
lol brilliant
so you reckon the plating was worn a bit too much or the piston just isnt as snug a fit as the OE one was ?

Re: CRM250AR Top end refresh

Posted: 28 Jul 2015, 17:22
by gregorious77
Plating looked good. There is a b and c sizes oe though so I guess it was the biggest size bore to start with. I have a spare barrel but it has a few dinks in the top sealing surface.Image

Re: CRM250AR Top end refresh

Posted: 03 Aug 2015, 23:00
by gregorious77
Purchased a whole engine for spares. New bore and piston with 5 miles on it. Failed newly rebuilt crank though. I will strip the crank and do my damndest to discover the origin of the illusive rod through accurate measurement and hours and hours of research.
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