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Re: whats that noise?
Posted: 28 Mar 2013, 09:40
by knackeredMk1
That would do.
Re: whats that noise?
Posted: 28 Mar 2013, 10:28
by helisupp
I would not weld anything to the shaft, the possibility of the amperage passing through another part of the engine and arcing could damage them.
Re: whats that noise?
Posted: 28 Mar 2013, 10:41
by knackeredMk1
As long as he earths the welder on the sprocket - surely that would be OK

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Re: whats that noise?
Posted: 28 Mar 2013, 11:52
by fishtail
actually I thought I might bolt some thing on there?
get a metal bar ( big L shape or similar - - few holes each side? bolt heads behind sprocket - bolt shaft thru teeth.. into metal bar.?
how much force is required?
cos this will be much easier to do inside than sat outside in the rain... taking engine out whole then dealing with it indoors..
no need to lump bike frame and engine up the stairs in one...
Re: whats that noise?
Posted: 28 Mar 2013, 11:57
by knackeredMk1
Not much force if you put into 6th gear. I'm not sure why you need to hold the out put shaft

- The only nut that you can't undo by chocking the gears is the clutch centre nut and you can't hold that without making a clutch holding tool or using an impact wrench.
Re: whats that noise?
Posted: 28 Mar 2013, 12:05
by fishtail
it must be said I have absolutely no idea what I'm letting myself in for - most I ever did was a top end rebuild... which was about 4 or 5 months ago....
hope the patient lives! itd be nice if it made it beyond its teenage years! ( 17 years old such a tricky age! )
main point is to disconnect everything as fast as possible between rain showers - then move engine inside. - so no wheels or anything
impact wrench? hmm looks like I will be after the clutch holding tool
( in the guide he wedges a socket in between clutch and frame. altho he says this might break the case?!
wont my flywheel holder work?

Re: whats that noise?
Posted: 28 Mar 2013, 12:21
by knackeredMk1
With the flywheel holder and a small piece of 2mm aluminium strip you will still need to make a clutch holding tool (As I did for my Mk1. See write up).
It is soooo much easier with a impact/wrench. I used to take my engines to college or a friend who is a car mechanic. 2-5 seconds to take off each nut rather than a whole heap of effort with long bars and wedges and trying to hold the engine in one place. I now have an electric impact wrench so I can do it at home.
Re: whats that noise?
Posted: 28 Mar 2013, 12:28
by fishtail
would something like this do the job?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CLARKE-CEW100 ... 2326ecbc43
the mechanic I knew wanted 500 quid to do the whole job - which I thought sod that!
so if a 50 quid tool makes it easier I am in!
*edit
especially since I will no doubt frig summat up an have to do it again in 6 months..,,

Re: whats that noise?
Posted: 28 Mar 2013, 12:31
by fishtail
was thinking about getting a work mate ( black an decker like thing )
since holding it on my knees might not be optimal...
or is there a better thing I should have?
( I totally dont have a proper work bench and the dining table might result in unwanted hassle later..... )
Re: whats that noise?
Posted: 28 Mar 2013, 12:42
by knackeredMk1
Get an old piece of carpet and do it on that or even a double thickness. Lay an old towel over the carpet to be sure (double layer again is better). You need to create a space at least ~2ftx2ft to place the engine on.
I've got a padded floor section in the garage and I lay a big old folded towel over it to catch any excess fluids when stripping the engine. When rebuilding I still do it on the floor (the benches are covered in carbon fibre stuff

) but on a clean towel.
Re: whats that noise?
Posted: 28 Mar 2013, 14:35
by helisupp
I bought a 12v impact wrench with impact sockets for under £30 at machine Mart, and works superbly, not too strong to damage anything.
Re: whats that noise?
Posted: 28 Mar 2013, 14:42
by knackeredMk1
I got the mains one as I had reports about the rechargeable one you have being not strong enough. The mains one is quite severe though I must say

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Re: whats that noise?
Posted: 28 Mar 2013, 16:27
by helisupp
It runs off a 12v battery, and did the wheels many times on my Track day Lotus Elise for 2 years.......until it got run over
Have another one now and works great on the small nuts and bolts, its not good enough for general garage use.
Re: whats that noise?
Posted: 28 Mar 2013, 17:41
by fallenmikethebike
helisupp wrote:It runs off a 12v battery, and did the wheels many times on my Track day Lotus Elise for 2 years.......until it got run over
Have another one now and works great on the small nuts and bolts, its not good enough for general garage use.
I saw one of those in a spares shop, and thought " I'll get one of those one day soon" well of course when I went back they had all gone, and they have never got them in again since. This one had a lead for clipping it onto the battery.
If fishy lugged a 12v battery upstairs that would do the job, and it might not be as fierce as the mains ones.
Mike
Re: whats that noise?
Posted: 29 Mar 2013, 03:31
by fishtail
gonna check these bad boys out on reclaimation street - yeah a 12volter might suit me! thanks Hels
its stopped raining - might go and dismantle the bugger - but first the wiring onthe missus TW.....
was bucketing down yesterday an I got zapped by the brake lever

seems if its raining real heavy - and gloves are soaking wet and the indicators are on then I'm getting electrocuted when I put the front brake on.... of course the first thing u do is release the brake instinctively,, not good
