Mk3 main needle and jet
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Mk3 main needle and jet
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I need to get a new 140 and 145 main jet for my mk3 carb (so I can finally get the mixture correct) and also a needle for it- do I need a different needle for each jet and do the jets come in standard screw sizes? Are they specific to each model of CRM? Does anyone have a part number or know who stocks needles and jets?
I need to get a new 140 and 145 main jet for my mk3 carb (so I can finally get the mixture correct) and also a needle for it- do I need a different needle for each jet and do the jets come in standard screw sizes? Are they specific to each model of CRM? Does anyone have a part number or know who stocks needles and jets?
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Re: Mk3 main needle and jet
The jets are common across many MX bikes in particular. What you want are jets for a PE series Keihin carb. Any good MX dealer should have them and the jets are independent of the needles.
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Re: Mk3 main needle and jet
Here is a link to an exploded drawing with the part no. the site has given me top service in the past on jets for various carbs
http://www.allensperformance.co.uk/exp-pe.html
http://www.allensperformance.co.uk/exp-pe.html
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Re: Mk3 main needle and jet
Thanks for the info guys- gold dust!! ;-)
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Re: Mk3 main needle and jet
Any idea what needle jet size I should be using, if I swap from a 150 to a 143 main jet?? -Would the same needle do, or should I get a newbie? My current jetting is way too rich and I can't ajust it anymore.
My current needle doesn't end in a point (like most normally do), but rather an inverted point- it this normal, or has someone changed it?
My current needle doesn't end in a point (like most normally do), but rather an inverted point- it this normal, or has someone changed it?
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Re: Mk3 main needle and jet
You don't ned to change the needle if you change jets. However I'm not sure what you mean by 'inverted point'. A previous owner may have changed the needle or worse bocken off the end
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I'll look up the needle part number but you might find it more difficult to get hold of.............

I'll look up the needle part number but you might find it more difficult to get hold of.............
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Re: Mk3 main needle and jet
I had my carb apart recently, and because I couldn't find the number written down any where, I jotted down the number I found on mine, which was, J3R.
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Re: Mk3 main needle and jet
Excellent- thanks for that!! My needle, rather than having a sharp point on it, goes upwards- into the needle, like a cone shape...never seen this before!?
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Re: Mk3 main needle and jet
Can only get the needle (in the parts book) with 2 clips and the plate that it fits to. No. - 16012KAE740
Currently in stock at Lings for £22.96 ex VAT and Postage.
Currently in stock at Lings for £22.96 ex VAT and Postage.
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Re: Mk3 main needle and jet
I have recently bought a Mk3 road legal bike and a "spares" Mk3 bike. So far I've only ridden the legal bike a few times, acceleration seemed poor with flat spots so I have just stripped carb and to my surprise found a 158 main jet, 50 pilot jet and needle clip in mid slot. I thought that I would check the carb on the "spares" bike and found that that had a 160 main jet , 45 pilot jet and needle on mid slot.
My exhaust expansion box is what looks like the "normal" black box that I see on many photos - there does not seem to be any manufacturer mark on it and I have a Honda silencer. I have checked the spark plug and it is dark brown to black in colour which I guess indicates it is running rich. I am wondering why someone would have increased the main jets so significantly.
I presume it is ok to go back to spec sizes - any advice/comments please?
Thanks
Andrew
My exhaust expansion box is what looks like the "normal" black box that I see on many photos - there does not seem to be any manufacturer mark on it and I have a Honda silencer. I have checked the spark plug and it is dark brown to black in colour which I guess indicates it is running rich. I am wondering why someone would have increased the main jets so significantly.
I presume it is ok to go back to spec sizes - any advice/comments please?
Thanks
Andrew
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Re: Mk3 main needle and jet
Should be OK to go back to original jets (150/45) but do do a plug chop test. Maybe they put different exhaust, air filter etc... on and changed back to the original
Do check your power valve is working.

Do check your power valve is working.
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Thanks. I have checked the power valve servo and it seems to be working but not as smoothly as the You Tube video of the power valve. I will check the power valve itself.
What reed would you recommend?
What reed would you recommend?
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Re: Mk3 main needle and jet
Boyesen No.1.
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Re: Mk3 main needle and jet
Thanks, Where's best to purchase from?
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Re: Mk3 main needle and jet
Any MX shop. Racespec online............